Ce blank-uri să cumpărăm ?

[marr]

Eu folosesc fara probleme Traxdata.

 

Cu E-Proformance - am vazut ca sunt laudate pe aici, am luat un teapa zdravana - luata de la Metro un bax de bulk-uri (25 buc) si am reusit sa scriu pe ... 3 dintre ele !!!

[NFS]

Poate depinde si de unitatea de scriere, de ex: LG scrie fara pb pe Traxdata, Teac pe eProformance, etc.

 

DVD-uri n-am scris pina acum, (desi am dvdrw), dar cu cdrw LG n-am avut pb la scris pe Imation si pe eProformance.

[NightClub]

@marr si eu am luat din metro cd-uri E-Proformance si le-am putut scrie pe toate si unele si la 52x fara nici o problema. Intrebarea mea e urmatoarea ce frima e unitatea de scriere? ca eu am ASUS si sunt multumit de el

Edited November 2, 2005 by NightClub

[sebian]

Firmele mai mari de calculatoare sigur sau poti face comanda...Personal am scris dual layer de la Traxdata, dar sunt un pic cam scumpicele 250 mii bucata...

25 de RONi? sa fie sanatosi...de banii astia cumpar 15 dvd-uri normale...

[alx]

Ieu scru pe DVD-R Traxdata excelent... si, by the way, sunt cumparate de la mine

[MethodRO]

Eu am un DVD-RW Pioneer. Sincer sa fiu eu prefer sa scriu numai pe DVD-uri de marca nu mah incurc cu tot felul de dvd-uri. Eu prefer Memorex (asa cum am precizat si mai sus). Mai folosesc in rest, dar foarte rar, Traxdata si TDK.

[Shenck]

Am gasit niste pocnitori X-Data 80k/10 buc

Pina acum s-au tras fara nici un rateu.

Daca le-am laudat ("> ... ultimele 10 bucati bulite toate, daca depasesc 3.5 Gb

[NightClub]

Auziti eu nu stiu de ce numai pot scrie mai mult de 700 pe un blank de 700. Inainte mergea perfect, iar acuma numai vrea de la ceo fi? blankurile sau programul?

[VAXXi]

"enable overburn" in settings.

[NightClub]

Gata am descoperit si merge iara. Mersi VAXXi

[VAXXi]

So, dupa cum explicam live in seara asta iata cum sta de fapt treaba cu CDurile si DVDurile blank.

 

Firma, marca lor este fix vax. Inca o data: firma de pe ambalaj nu conteaza.

 

Asta pentru ca nici o firma de pe ambalaj nu isi produce singura discurile, ci le cumpara "bulk", aplica eticheta pe ele si le vinde. Practic, firma este doar o garantie pentru faptul ca acel disc a fost produs intr-o fabrica suficient de buna incat firma de pe eticheta sa isi puna numele pe acel ambalaj. Sunt putine fabrici producatoare de discuri, majoritatea prin zona Asiei.

 

Ceea ce conteaza deci este codul fabricii producatoare, cod inscris pe discul blank intr-o zona "readonly" accesibila cu programelul atasat. Bagati blankul in unitate, rulati programul, selectati unitatea RW din lista si veti vedea informatiile despre disc.

 

Deci, nu mai spuneti ca Traxdata/Memorex/Xdata/Cucudata sunt bune/proaste, pentru ca e irelevant. Conteaza media id-ul de fabrica, identificarea producatorului. Daca discul nici macar nu are ID ... cred ca e clar cat de "bun" este.

 

De exemplu, Traxdata a inceput cu Ritek, apoi a urmat o perioada in care discurile erau facute de CMC. La inceput erau bune, cu CMC au stricat firma. Acum au revenit la Ritek de ceva vreme si vad ca nu au mai avut probleme. La fel, Memorex cu MCC003 ... din vreo suta de discuri, acum vreo jumatate nu mai sunt recunoscute (s-au ingalbenit ca mamaliga). Si exemplele pot continua.

 

Dar ... "de unde stiu ce si cum sa cumpar, ca sa fiu sigur ca e un disc bun ?" Luati un disc de test inainte, bagati programul, si studiati care-i treaba cu el citind pagina urmatoare: http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm - acolo sunt listate IDurile producatorilor, ce marci sunt legate de anumiti producatori, care sunt bune si care nu. Succes

 

 

 

Atasez lista si aici, pentru referinta:

 

1ST CLASS MEDIA

Almost flawless burns with 95-100% reliable results:

PVC = Pioneer (Japan) = (-R)(-RW) ... media is no longer made

MXLRG0x = Maxell (Japan) = (-R)(-RW)

YUDENT, TYG0x = Taiyo Yuden (Japan) = (-R)(+R)

MCC, MKM = Mitsubishi Chemicals (Singapore/Taiwan) = (-R)(-RW)(+R)(+RW)

TDK, TTG0x, TTH0x = TDK Corp (Taiwan/Japan) = (-R)(-RW)

SONY0xD = Sony (Japan/Taiwan) = (-R)(-RW)

 

2ND CLASS MEDIA

Decent discs, though not perfect, about 80-95% success rate:

RICOHJPN = Ritek or Ricoh (Taiwan) = (+R)(+RW)

PRODISC = Prodisc Media (Taiwan) = (-R)(+R)

RITEK = Ritek (Taiwan) = (+R)(-R)(-RW)(+RW)

FUJIFILM = Fuji = (-R)(+R)

OPTODISC = Optodisc = (-R)

INFODISC = Infodisc Media = (+RW)

 

3RD CLASS MEDIA

Quality can be very questionable, about 50-80% success rate:

LEADDATA, LD01, LD, LEDA = Lead Data = (-R)(-RW)

BEALL = Samsung BeAll (Taiwan) = (-R)(+R)

MBI = Moser Beaur (India) = (-R)(+R)(+RW)

MAM-A, MAM-E (USA, Europe) = Mitsui = (-R)

PRINCO, fake TDK = Princo (Taiwan) = (-R)(-RW)

ONIDTECH = Ul Tran Technology (Taiwan) = (-R)

MUST = Unknown OEM = (-R)

GSC001, GSC002 = Gigastorage (Taiwan) = (-R)(+R)

CMC, CMCMAG = CMC Magnetics (Taiwan) = (+R)

PHILIPS = Philips (Taiwan) = (+RW)

 

4TH CLASS MEDIA

Pathetic garbage media, landfill material, about 0-50% success rate:

CMC, CMCMAG = CMC Magnetics (Taiwan) = (-R)

PIODATA, PIO = LeadData/ Ritek (Taiwan) = (-R))(+R)

OPTODISC = Optodisc (Taiwan) = (+R)(+RW)

LONGTEN = Jilin Qingda ??? (China) = (-R)

YIJHAN = Yi Jhan Technology (Taiwan) = (-R)

ALL FAKE MEDIA = mostly InfoSmart (HK), E-Net (UK) and Mitsui (USA,Europe)

AN31, AN32, ANWELL, AN30 = "default" stamper code (usually Infosmart) = (-R)

AML = Advance Media Limited (Taiwan) = (-R)

INFOSMART, ISO001 = Infosmart (China) = (-R)(+R)

DAXON = BenQ/Acer (+R)(-R)

VANGUARD, VDSPMS = Unknown OEM = (-R)

UME001 = UmeDisc (Hong Kong) = (-R)

WFKA = Wealthfair Investment (China) = (-R)(+R)

 

Fakes

 

Luckily, it does not happen often, but it does happen often enough to be a major annoyance to media buyers everywhere. Most fake media comes from Hong Kong, as a general rule. Fake media tends to float around Europe and Asia more than it does the USA. Fake media is normally sold in flea markets, on eBay and online. Major brand name media sold in stores is probably never going to be fake.

 

TYG02 = This was faked by INFOSMART (Hong Kong) in 2004-2005. Some OPTODISC media was also reported to carry this code. Mitsui is also faking them in their USA and Europe plants. The fakes are rumored to be for "improved 8x media detection" but low quality media is low quality, regardless of the media ID.

MCC02RG20, MCC003 = This was faked starting in mid 2005, again by InfoSmart of Hong Kong.

TTG02, TTH01, TTH02 = These are apparently "legal" fakes made by Mitsui, with permission by TDK to use the code. However the media is quite poor, not true TDK media. Another 2005 fake.

MXLRG01 = This was faked by INFOSMART (Hong Kong) in 2002-2003.

SONY = This was faked in 2003. Unknown HK manufacturer. "SONY" is not a valid media ID.

Pioneer brand = Pioneer's PVC quit manufacturing blanks in 2003 (PVC media codes). LeadData and Ritek tried to sell their PIODATA and PIO coded blanks under the "Pioneer" brand name, but that was fake.

TDKG02 = This was faked by PRINCO in 2001-2002. They wanted to "improve 2x writing" on the 1x write strategy media, as well as insure drives would see the media (not all firmware at the time had PRINCO as a valid media code).

RITEKG03,RITEKG04 = This was supposedly faked in 2004. However, it is the opinion of this author that it was just a lame cover story by RITEK for providing subpar quality media, as even the "legit" media performed poorly at the time.

 

 

Branding Guide

 

Although this will change on a regular basis, the following brands are known to use the following media makers for their outsourced discs. Be careful for CMC and PRINCO discs, as those are becoming more common in those "special sales" seen almost every week since early 2004. Some companies prefer dollars over quality, so be careful. Also be especially careful of "house brands" or no-names. Stores like Fry's and CompUSA have horrible return policies too, so if you end up with an unfavorable media ID, do not burn a test, just take it back for a refund and take your business elsewhere. Because of recent trends, the BOLDFACE represents known media at the time of this publish. Others are either past media codes, or codes available to the manufacturer. The (-R) and (+R) has also been added if only one is using that code.

 

Accu = LEADDATA

Americal = RITEKG01, PRINCO, LEADDATA

Apple = MXL, MCC(-R)

Arita = RITEKG03, RICOHJPN

BenQ = DAXON, FUJIFILM

Bulkpaq = Fakes TY/MCC, PRINCO, ISO001(+R)

CompUSA = PRINCO(-R), AML, OPTODISC, LD

Datawrite = PRINCO, PRODISC, AN31, RITEKG03

DupEZ = PIODATA, LEADDATA

ESA = CMC

Esbuy = RITEK, LEADDATA, other budget IDs

Fuji = TY(-R), MKM(-RW), MCC, RICOHJPN(+R), PRODISC(-R), FUJIFILM, RITEK

GQ = PIODATA, PRINCO, RITEKG03, RITEKG02, LEADDATA, LD

HP = CMC, RICOHJPN, MCC

Imation = MCC02, RITEKG03, CMC

Intenso = MCC01

KHypermedia = CMC, TTG01

Kodak = Various budget IDs

LiquidVideo = OPTODISC

Matrix = MATRIX, LONGTEN, YIJHAN, MUST

Maxell = MXL, RITEK(-R/Taiwan), RICOHJPN, TYG01

Memorex = MCC003, RITEKG05, RITEKR03, CMCMAG, RICOHJPN,

Memorex (more) = PRODISCS0x, INFODISC, MBI, MCC01

Meritline = Various budget IDs

Mirror = AN31, ONIDTECH, PRINCO

Optodisc = OPTODISC

Philips = CMC

Pioneer = PVC

Princo = PRINCO, Fake TDK

Prodisc = PRODISCS0x, PRODISCF0x, MCC01, MCC02

Ridata, Ritek = RITEKG0x, RITEKM0x, RITEKR0x, RITEKW, RICOHJPN

Samsung = TYG01, BEALL, RITEK

Sonic, Shop4tech = LONGTEN, MATRIX, MUST, YIJHAN, various budget IDs

Sony = SONYD0x, YUDEN, RICOHJPN, MCC

Supermedia, Linkeu = Various budget IDs

TDK = TY, YUDEN, TTG0x, TTH0x, RITEK, RICOH, MXL, CMC(+R), MCC, TDK

Teon = MCC003(+R), CMC(-R)

Verbatim = MCC02, MCC, MKM(DL), CMC, YUDEN, RICOHJPN, RITEKG03

CDRIdentifier.zip

[MethodRO]

VAXXi arhiva pe care ai pus-o pe net nue buna. Mai uploadeaz-o o data te rog.

[sotto]

Buna treaba VAXXI , documentati-va cu ce CD/DVD-uri sunt compatibile sau recomandate de catre firma unitatii optice.

[VAXXi]

http://www.afterdawn.com/software/cdr_soft...ridentifier.cfm

 

http://dvdidentifier.cdfreaks.com/

[VAXXi]

Mi-am adus aminte de topicul asta cand am dat peste subiectul pozei ... care-o fi ala original ? (probabil nici unul)

[NFS]

Ala din stinga are scris un fel de numar serial in jurul gaurii. Are vreo relevantza?

[Moshu]

Exista un soft care iti spune si data fabricatiei, dar cu conditia sa fie original...

[bogdan_o]

Eu am testat un cd-r Verbatim si apare ca fiind facut de Taiyo Yuden. Nu pot sa spun daca e original sau nu ca nu am cautat sa vad daca Verbatim are sau nu contract cu respectiva firma. Dar nu m-ar mira, atat timp cat acum se pune din ce in ce mai mult accent pe outsourcing. Deci Verbatim-ul vine cu know-how-ul, cu tehlologia de fabricatie, procesul in sine fiind lasat in grija altora. E mai iefin asa.

 

Si ca sa nu fiu off-topic, eu folosesc Verbatim-uri si Samsung Pleomax. Samsung-urile le-am cumparat pentru design-ul lor si desi ca pret sunt entry-level nu am avut in 2 ani de zile nici o problema cu ele. Nu s-a cojit vopseaua, nu s-au spart in unitate (cum am patit-o acum o luna cu un Sony, ocazie cu care am distrus un dvd writer - si apropo, garantia nu acopera incidentele astea). Cea mai proasta marca pe care am intalnit-o a fost Delphi. Am luat un cake-box de 10 dvd-r si desi pe ele scria ca sunt certificate 8x unitatea nu a vrut nici batuta sa le scrie cu mai mult de 2x. Cu alte dvd-uri nu am avut nici o problema, nici macar cu cele intr-adevar no-name-uri pe care nu scrie absolut nimic.