Ulei - Motor

[Geo_ZGA]

Gresesti, da. Uleiurile pt curse rezista intr-adevar la turatii inalte, dar pe o perioada de timp mai scurta, probabil calculata ca ore si nu la km. Mergi pe un ulei "normal" de calitate si nu vei avea probleme din cauza asta.

[Salex]

... dacă rezista la turații mai ridicate ar rezista totuși mult mai bine calitativ in perioada asta de 10000 km sau un an , oferind protecție mai buna . Greșesc ?

Da, gresesti. Diferenta intre cele doua tipuri de uleiuri este mare in ceea ce priveste continutul de detergenti si alti aditivi (care asigura stabilitate in timp). In plus, nu uita si de variatiile mari de temperatura din timpul iernii unde poti avea o excursie de 100-120*C la o masina absolut normala.

 

[florinellll]

Uleiuri extrem de robuste si rezistente la ardere in motoare de benzinar testate deja sute de mii de KM cu aprobari SCRISE date de PORSCHE SI DAIMLER nu de norme de cotete intre 7000 si-15000-eur...

SHELL HELIX ULTRA 5W40

VALVOLINE SYN POWER 5W40

ADDINOL SUPER LIGHT 5W40

LIQUY MOLLY LEICHTLAUF HIGHTEC 5W40

MOTUL XCESS 5W40

 

SCHIMBUL LA 10000KM/12LUNI

 

Pt daramate deja de km ce consuma ulei grav sau date inapoi la kilometraj deja minim 100000km...si cumparate deja cu km putini in bord dar reali AU sute de mii

 

Semisinteticele

VALVOLINE SYN POWER 10W40

MOTUL SYNERGIE 6100 10W40

SHELL HELIX HX7 10W40

 

Schimbate la 7500KM/12LUNI

la 10w40 se folosesc numai uleiuri ce indeplinesc norma MB229.3 cum sunt cele de mai sus..

deoarece fata de semisnteticele MB229.1 au rezistenta la oxidare mult mai mare.

Sa il "parafrazez" pe Mircea Badea

""Da-ma dreacuuu"" ,,maine imi iau bicicleta.

Acum imi dau seama ce mi-am batut joc de masina mea!!!!!!

Am ajuns la 300.000 km(segmenti,pistoane,cuzineti,biele, etc"neumblate") cand puteam foarte usor cu ulei performant sa ajung la 3.000.000km

Asta e "veata"

Stiti cum pot da timpul inapoi?!?!

Edited July 12, 2017 by florinellll

[paneuroil]

LISTA NOUA ULEIURI PT MOTOARE BENZINA APROBATE DE PORSCHE NORMA PORSCHE A40

 

Schimb ulei +filtru de calitate prin golire pe la baia de ulei

La 10000km/12luni CE SE ATINGE PRIMA DATA...

 

NU normele de cotete de 2 lei de serie mare ce sunt mult sub cea de mai sus la fel si testarile uleiurilor.

PORSCHE testeaza uleiurile pe circuit de curse 200 ore pana le aproba.

 

ATENTIE VERSIUNI ALE ACESTOR ULEIURI DIN LISTA OFICIALA DE MAI JOS vandute pe piete emergente inclusiv cea din RO nu au trecuta norma PORSCHE A40 pe bidon deci (nu corespund chaiar daca sunt trecute in lista daca nu e trecuta norma pe bidon).

 

Technical Information Freigabe/Approval 23/15 ENU 1701 1

Jan 19, 2016

Overview of Approved Porsche A40 Engine Oils (23/15)

Model year: as of 1984

Revision:

This bulletin replaces bulletin Group 1, #14/15, dated October 16, 2015.

Vehicle Type:

All Porsche vehicles for which Porsche A40 engine oils are allocated.

Overview:

Information

Porsche AG has reached an agreement with the oil companies which involves setting a time limit on the validity of our engine oil

approvals.

The period of validity is between 2 and 3 years. The expiration date of the approval is given in the last column in the list.

Once this validity period has elapsed, the approval in question is revoked unless an extension is requested by the relevant manufacturer.

Addinol Lube Oil GmbH Super Light 0540 5W-40 EU, Asia 30.11.2016

Addinol Lube Oil GmbH HIGH STAR, SAE 5W-40 5W-40 EU 30.11.2016

Addinol Lube Oil GmbH Eco Light 5W-40 EU, Asia 30.11.2016

Adnoc Distribution Adnoc Voyager Gold 5W-40 Middle East, AF 31.01.2016

AMSOIL Inc. AMSOIL European Car Formula 5W-40 5W-40 N-America 31.03.2016

AMSOIL Inc. AMSOIL Full SAPS European Formula 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.12.2017

ARAL AG HighTronic 5W-40 WW 29.02.2016

ARAL AG HighTronic M 5W-40 WW 30.04.2017

ARAL AG SuperSynth 0W-40 WW 31.07.2018

ARAL AG MegaSynth 0W-40 WW 31.07.2016

ARAL AG MegaSynth 5W-40 WW 31.03.2016

ARAL AG SuperTronic 0W-40 WW 31.05.2016

Atlantic Grease & Lubricants FZC. Super Synthec SAE 5W-40 Middle East, S-America 31.08.2017

AVIA Mineralöl AG Avia Synth LS 0W-40 0W-40 WW 31.05.2016

AVIA Mineralöl AG Avia Synth 5W-40 5W-40 DEU 31.07.2016

AVISTA OIL AG MOTOR GOLD Supertec SAE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.01.2018

Bapco (The Bahrain Petroleum Company) Charger Xtreem SAE 5W–40 5W-40 Middle East, W-AF, E-AF, SE-Asia 30.11.2016

Bapco (The Bahrain Petroleum Company) Charger RT, SAE 5W–40 5W-40 Middle East, W-AF, E-AF, SE-Asia 30.11.2016

Bardahl Asia Pacific Pte Ltd SynPulsar-N SAE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 28.02.2018

BLU Canada Limited BLU Synthetic Technician Series LS-FS 5W-40 WW 30.06.2017

BP plc BP Super V Plus 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.08.2016

Burj Eiffel Int Lubricants Ind. L.L.C. Eiffel Opera Ultimate 5W40 SN/CF 5W-40 WW 31.03.2017

Canadian Tire Motomaster Formula 1 Synthetic SAE 5W-40 5W-40 Canada 31.01.2018

CASTROL Limited Castrol Edge Professional A3 0W-40 0W-40 WW 31.07.2018

CASTROL Limited Castrol Edge 0W-40 A3/B4 0W-40 WW 31.07.2018

CASTROL Limited Castrol Edge Professional A3 5W-40 5W-40 WW 30.11.2016

CASTROL Limited Castrol Edge 5W-40 SN 5W-40 WW 30.11.2016

CASTROL Limited Castrol Edge Professional OE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.10.2016

CASTROL Limited Castrol Edge with SPT 5W-40 5W-40 US, Latin America 31.10.2016

CASTROL Limited Miocar MX Syntra 5W-40 5W-40 EU 30.04.2017

CEPSA Lubricantes CEPSA XTAR 5W-40 505.01 5W-40 WW 31.10.2016

CEPSA Lubricantes CEPSA GENUINE 5W40 SYNTHETIC 5W-40 EU 30.04.2017

CEPSA Lubricantes CEPSA AVANT 5W40 SYN 5W-40 WW 30.04.2017

Chevron Technology

Gent Havoline Ultra S 5W-40 5W-40 EU, Australia, S-AF,

S-America 31.03.2017

Chevron Technology GentHavoline Ultra 5W-40 5W-40 EU 31.01.2017

Chevron Technology GentHavoline Synthetic Euro Motor Oil SAE 5W-40 5W-40 N-America 31.03.2017

Chevron Technology GentHavoline Pro DS Full Synthetic Euro Motor Oil SAE

5W-40 5W-40 N-America 31.03.2017

Chevron Technology GentHavoline Synthetic 5W-40 5W-40 EU 31.03.2017

Chevron Technology GentHavoline ProDS Fully Synthetic LE SAE 5W-40 5W-40 Asia-Pacific, Middle-East 28.02.2018

Chevron Technology GentHavoline ProDS Fully Synthetic SAE 0W-40 0W-40 Asia Pacific 30.11.2017

Chevron Technology GentHavoline ProDS Fully Synthetic SAE 5W-40 5W-40 Asia Pacific 30.04.2017

DE OLIEBRON B.V. Tor Hypersynth, SAE 5W-40 5W-40 EU, Middle-East, AF, CIS 31.11.2016

DEUTSCHE ÖLWERKE LUBMIN AVENO Full Synth. 0W40 0W-40 WW 30.09.2017

DEUTSCHE PENTOSIN-WERKE PENTOSYNTH HC 5W-40 EU, N-America, S-America, Asia 29.02.2016

DEUTSCHE PENTOSIN-WERKE Pento High Performance II 5W-40 5W-40 EU, N-America, S-America, Asia 29.02.2016

DEUTSCHE PENTOSIN-WERKE Pentosynth R 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.10.2016

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DKR PETROLEUM CO. ENERGY RELEASE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.08.2017

DKR PETROLEUM CO ENERGY RELEASE 5W-40 (ER 5W-40) 5W-40 WW 31.08.2016

Elf Elf Evolution 900 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.01.2017

Elf Elf Evolution 900 FT 0W-40 0W-40 WW 30.09.2016

Elf Elf Evolution Full-Tech C3 5W-40 5W-40 WW 28.02.2018

Elf Elf Evolution Full-Tech LSX 5W-40 5W-40 WW 28.02.2018

Elf Elf Excellium C3 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.08.2017

Elf Elf Evolution 900 Turbo 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.01.2017

eni S.p.A. eni i-Sint 0W-40 0W-40 N-America 31.10.2016

eni S.p.A. eni i-Sint 5W-40 5W-40 EU 27.02.2017

eni S.p.A. eni i-Sint 4AM 5W-40 5W-40 N-America 31.10.2016

eni S.p.A. eni i-Sint PC 4AM 5W-40 5W-40 N-America 30.04.2017

ESRON PETROLEUM SDN BHD HARDEX EXIMUS MAX F-SYN ENGINE OIL 5W-40 Asia 31.12.2016

EXXONMOBIL Corporation Mobil 1 0W-40 0W-40 WW 30.04.2017

EXXONMOBIL Corporation Mobil 1 5W-40 5W-40 WW 30.04.2017

EXXONMOBIL Corporation Mobil 1 5W-50 5W-50 WW 30.04.2017

EXXONMOBIL Corporation Mobil 1 New Life 0W-40 0W-40 WW 30.04.2017

EXXONMOBIL Corporation Mobil Super 3000 X1 5W-40 5W-40 EU, Asia 31.05.2016

EXXONMOBIL Corporation Mobil Super 3000 XE1 5W-40 5W-40 WW 30.11.2016

EXXONMOBIL Corporation Mobil Super 3000 X3 5W-40 5W-40 WW 30.11.2016

EXXONMOBIL Corporation Mobil 1 Peak Life 5W-50 5W-50 WW 30.04.2017

EXXONMOBIL Corporation Mobil Super 3000 X2 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.12.2017

EXXONMOBIL Corporation Mobil Formula X2 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.12.2017

FUCHS TITAN Supersyn SAE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 30.09.2017

FUCHS TITAN GT1 5W-40 5W-40 WW 29.02.2016

FUCHS TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE 0W-40 0W-40 WW 31.08.2016

FUCHS TITAN Supersyn LONGLIFE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.12.2016

German Mirror MIRR ALMA SUPER PLUS API SM SAE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 28.02.2017

GRUPA LOTOS SA Lotos Quazar 5W-40 5W-40 EU, Asia, N-America, S-America, AF, AUS 29.02.2016

GULF OIL International Gulf Formula ULE 5W-40 WW except USA, ESP, Portugal 28.02.2018

GULF OIL International Gulf Formula G 5W-40 WW except USA, ESP, Portugal 31.12.2017

GULF OIL International Gulf Formula S 5W-40 ESP, Portugal 31.01.2017

GULF OIL International Gulf Progress Efficiency 5W-40 5W-40 WW 28.02.2018

IGOL France IGOL PROFIVE DIAMANT 5W-40 5W-40 WW 29.02.2016

Interparts Autoteile GmbH masteroil c-tec Power 5W-40 5W-40 DEU 31.07.2016

Interparts Autoteile GmbH Trost masteroil c-tec Power 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.03.2016

Interparts Autoteile GmbH Trost masteroil v-tec Premium 0W-40 0W-40 WW 31.01.2017

Interparts Autoteile GmbH masteroil c-tec Power, SAE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 30.11.2016

JIANGSU LONGPAN PERTOCHEMICAL CO., LTD LOPAL 9900 5W-40 Asia 30.04.2017

Kuwait Petroleum Research &

Technology B.V. (Q8)

Q8 Formula M Long Life SAE

5W-40 5W-40 EU, SE-Asia, N-America, Middle

East, RUS 31.10.2016

Kuwait Petroleum Research & Technology

B.V. (Q8)

Q8 Formula Excel, SAE 5W-

40 5W-40 WW 30.11.2016

LIQUI MOLY Liqui Moly Leichtlauf High Tech SAE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.07.2016

LIQUI MOLY Liqui Moly Top Tec 4100 5W-40 WW 28.02.2018

LIQUI MOLY Liqui Moly Pro-Engine M 900 5W-40 WW 31.07.2016

LIQUI MOLY Liqui Moly Leichtlauf HC7 5W-40 WW 31.12.2016

 

Lubricant Company SINOPEC SINOPEC JUSTAR J700F 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.03.2016

Lubritech Limited GEP Rayspeed Syntherm 0W-40 China, Malaysia, Singapore, AUS 31.10.2017

MEGUIN GmbH & Co. KG megol Motorenoel High Condition, SAE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 30.11.2016

MEGUIN GmbH & Co. KG megol Motorenoel Ultra Performance Longlife, SAE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 30.11.2016

MEGUIN GmbH & Co. KG megol Motorenoel Low Emission 5W-40 WW 28.02.2018

MINERVA-OIL SAS TSH 5W-40 5W-40 EU, AF 28.02.2018

MITAN Mineralöl GmbH ALPINE RSL 5W-40 5W-40 EU 30.11.2016

Mitasu Oil Mitasu Platinum PA 5W-40 Asia, CIS 28.02.2017

MOTOREX Bucher MOTOREX SELECT SP-X 5W-40 EU 29.02.2016

MOTOREX Bucher MOTOREX XPERIENCE FS-X SAE 0W/40 0W-40 WW 30.11.2017

MOTUL 8100 X-clean 5W-40 5W-40 WW 29.02.2016

MOTUL Motul Synergie 5W-40 5W-40 WW 30.04.2017

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MOTUL FEU VERT 100% Synthèse 5W-40 5W-40 FRA, ESP, POR, PL 30.04.2017

MOTUL MOTUL EXPERT M 5W-40 5W-40 WW 30.04.2017

MOTUL 8100 X-MAX 0W-40 0W-40 WW 31.07.2016

Oel-Brack AG Midland Synqron 0W-40 EU 31.01.2017

Orlen Deutschland AG PLATINUM PRO C3 5W-40 5W-40 EU, RUS 31.01.2017

Oscar Lubricants L.L.C. Oscar Jade Gold, SAE 5W-40 5W-40 Middle East 30.11.2016

Pakelo Motor Oil S.r.l. Krypton XT LA SAE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.05.2016

PATTCOLUBE (M) SDN BHD PRINCE - FS1 Fully Synthetic 5W-40 WW 31.10.2016

Pennzoil-Quaker State Pennzoil Ultra Euro 0W-40 USA, CAN & Central America 31.10.2016

Pennzoil-Quaker State QS Ultimate Durability European 5W-40 USA, CAN & Central America 31.10.2016

Pennzoil-Quaker State Pennzoil Platinum Euro 0W-40 USA, CAN, China 31.10.2016

Pennzoil-Quaker State Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5W-40 USA, CAN, China 01.11.2016

Pennzoil-Quaker State Pennzoil Ultra Euro Full Synthetic Motor Oil 5W-40 5W-40 America 01.11.2016

PetroChina Lubricant Company KUNLUN TIANRUN KR9–T 0W-40 0W-40 China 30.11.2017

Petrogal S.A. galp energia Galp Energy Ultra LS 5W-40 WW 29.02.2016

Petromin Corporation Petromin Supersyn plus SAE 5W-40 5W-40 Middle East, EU, Asia, AF 30.06.2017

Petron Corporation Ultron Fully Synthetic 5W-40 Philippines, Malaysia, China, Cambodia, Brunei 31.03.2017

PETRONAS LUBRICANTS INTERNATIONAL PETRONAS SYNTIUM 3000 AV 5W-40 EU, Asia, S-America 31.03.2017

PETRONAS LUBRICANTS INTERNATIONAL PETRONAS SYNTIUM 7000 0W-40 0W-40 WW 30.11.2017

POSIM PETROLEUM MARKETING SDN BHD HI-REV 5W-40 Asia, EU, USA 30.04.2017

RALOY LUBRICANTES, S.A. DE C.V. Krönen Multigrado Sintetico 5W-40 Latin America, MEX 29.02.2016

Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb GmbH RAVENOL Super Synthetic Öl SSL 0W-40 0W-40 WW 30.11.2017

Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb GmbH RAVENOL VollSynth Turbo VST SAE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.07.2016

Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb GmbH RAVENOL VSI SAE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 30.11.2016

Reliance Fluids Technologies, LLC GulfTEC Full Synthetic Euro, SAE 5W-40 5W-40 USA, CAN, Puerto Rico 30.11.2016

REPSOL YPF Repsol Elite Competition 5W-40 EU, Middle East, Far East 30.04.2017

ROWE Mineralölwerk GmbH ROWE HIGHTEC SYNT RSi SAE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.07.2016

Sasol Oil (Pty) Ltd Sasol Engine Oil Synthetic M, Sae 5W-40 5W-40 AF 30.11.2016

Shell International Petroleum

Company

Shell Helix HX8 C 0W-40 EU 31.10.2016

Shell International Petroleum

Company

Shell Helix Ultra 0W-40 WW, except USA& CAN 31.10.2016

Shell International Petroleum

Company

Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40 EU, CEE, Latin America, Middle East, Asia, Oceania,

USA, E-RUS, AF

31.10.2016

Shell Tongyi (Beijing) Syneng 8 SN 5W-40 5W-40 China 30.04.2017

Singapore Petroleum Company Limited SPC SYN ACE SUPREME API SN 5W-40 Asia 31.01.2016

SK lubricants ZIC XQ RV 5W-40 RUS, S-Asia, E-Asia, EU 31.05.2016

SK lubricants ZIC X9 5W-40 5W-40 EU, Asia, America 30.04.2017

Speed Metal International Co., Ltd. Speed Metal 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.12.2016

SRS Schmierstoff Vertrieb GmbH SRS ViVA 1 topsynth 5W-40 WW 30.11.2016

TOP 1 OIL Products Company Evolution OEM Series-04 5W-40 Asia Pacific 28.02.2017

Totachi Industrial Co. Ltd. Japan TOTACHI 5W-40 Asia 31.08.2017

TOTAL Total Quartz 9000 Energy 0W-40 0W-40 WW 30.09.2016

TOTAL Total Quartz 9000 Energy 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.08.2016

TOTAL Total Quartz INEO MC3 5W-40 5W-40 WW 28.02.2018

TOTAL Total Quartz 9000 Energy RQ 5W-40 5W-40 WW 30.11.2016

TOTAL Total Activa 9000 Essence 5W-40 5W-40 WW 30.04.2017

TOTAL Total Activa 9000 SAE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.01.2017

TOTAL Total Quartz 9000 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.08.2016

UNIL OPAL Opaljet 24S, SAE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.07.2016

UNIL OPAL Opaljet Futura 5W-40 WW 29.02.2016

UNITED OIL COMPANY PTE OIL United Oil 5W-40 Asia 31.03.2016

Valvoline Europe Valvoline SynPower MST SAE 5W-40 5W-40 USA, China 28.02.2017

Valvoline Europe SynPower motor oil SAE 0W-40 0W-40 EU, Middle East, N-AF 31.08.2016

Valvoline Europe VPS C3 5W-40 Synthetic 5W-40 EU, Middle East, AF 28.02.2018

Vekotec International PTE Ltd. Velotac Auto VX 0W-40 Asia 30.11.2017

Wakefield Canada Inc. Wakefield Synthetic SAE 5W-40 5W-40 Canada 31.07.2017

WAKO’s Chemical Company Limited Japan 4CT-S 5W-40 Japan 31.05.2016

WESTFALEN - Germany Westfalen Gigatron 0W-40 0W-40 EU 31.07.2018

YACCO YACCO VX 1000 FAP 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.12.2017

YACCO YACCO VX 1000 LL 0W-40 0W-40 WW 31.01.2017

YACCO YACCO VX 1000 LL 5W-40 5W-40 WW 30.04.2017

YURI Industrial Co., Ltd. JUDY 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.12.2016

YURI Industrial Co., Ltd. K.P 5W-40 5W-40 WW 31.12.2016

YURI Industrial Co., Ltd. JIAMOSE 5W-40 5W-40 WW 30.11.2016

Sales Areas:

The respective sales area is also listed in order to clarify where the approved oils are available. Here are the meanings of the symbols:

WW Worldwide ESP Spain

EU Europe FIN Finland

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E-EU Eastern Europe FRA France

USA United States of America GB Great Britain and Northern Ireland

C-America Central America IRL Ireland

N-America North America JAP Japan

S-America South America MEX Mexico

AF Africa NOR Norway

Asia Asia NZL New Zealand

FSU Former Soviet Union RUS Russia

BS Baltic countries SCG Croatia

AUS Australia SVK Slovakia

AUT Austria SWE Sweden

BRA Brazil TWN Taiwan

CAN Canada UAE United Arab Emirates

CH Switzerland UKR Ukraine

CHN China VNM Vietnam

DEU Germany ZA South Africa

Miscibility:

All engine oils approved by Porsche can be mixed provided they are of the same Porsche oil specification. This means that it is not

necessary to flush the engine when the oil is changed if another type of oil is used. However, since every brand of oil has a specially

adapted unique composition, the same brand and type of oil should be used for topping up between oil change intervals if possible.

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Porsche A40 testing procedure:

 

This test will last 203 hours. The engine, and the oil, will go through:

- 4 times the simulation of 35 hours of summer driving,

- 4 times the simulation of 13.5 hours of winter driving,

- 40 cold starts,

- 5 times the simulation of 1-hour sessions on the “Nürburgring” racetrack,

- 3.5 hours of “running-in” program

Measurements on the engine and on the oil will be done at regular intervals, and the following parameter

will be taken into account to grant the approval or not:

- torque curve (internal friction),

- oxidation of the oil,

- Piston cleanliness and ring sticking,

- Valve train wear protection. Cam & tappet wear must be less than 10 μm.

- Engine cleanliness and sludge: after 203 hours, no deposits must be visible.

- Bearing wear protection: visual rating according to Porsche in-house method.

iata cum testeaza o baie de ulei PORSCHE pana o aproba..

https://youtu.be/fv53RbvgfGc

cam asa chinuie si uleiurile pt benzina.. norma PORSCHE A40 pana le aproba

[Viktor]

Am motoru' cel mai tare,

 

Gratie lubrificare,

 

Ulei-ului din dotare.

 

 

 

Molecule combinate,

 

Pe motoare aspirate,

 

Sa tot tragi de ele, frate !!!

 

 

 

Din ciclu' "motoru' meu",

 

by Viktor.

 

 

 

[alexinno]

Vrum, vrum...

[koss_x_treeme]

Mi-am facut schimbul de ulei acu 2 saptamani. Au intrat 3 litri la a mea koreanca din dotare ).. Ma uit pe nivel la joja .. e aproape de maxim )... Sunt curios cum naiba au ramas aia 0.75 litri prin motor. ca in carte scrie ca 3.75l intra. )) I-am si zis la nenea care a schimbat uleiul sa puna mai putin.. A pus mai putin cu un litru.. Din 4l mai am 1l in recipient. La service la skoda, premium. au pus aia in trecut peste de cand m-am uitat pe joja era muuult peste maxim.. Mai bine mai putin decat mai mult.. mi-au distrus garniturile doreii aia atunci. Acum am pus castrol magnetec 10w40 full sintetic si filtru mann.

 

Totusi tin bine de tot minte ca in urma cu mai multi ani am facut spalare la motor cu flushu mamii (SA NU FACETI SPALARE LA MOTOR CU FLUSHURI ! Eu m-am apucat de segmentat motorul dupa treaba asta ) ). Am pus la maxim pe joja ulei dupa ce l-am scurs pe tot pana la ultima picatura. Au intrat 3.4l ulei pana la maxim pe joja. Ori astea de korea au alte specificatii ori 3,75 e umflat putin..

Edited October 31, 2017 by koss_x_treeme

[Geo_ZGA]

Depinde cum scurgi uleiul... in mod normal trebuie incalzit motorul si lasat sa se scurga cel putin 10-15 min. Eu dau drumul la ulei si fumez o tigare, doua. Cam 3,6l intra si pe joja e la jumatate.

[Viktor]

Dupa cum spune Geo, scurgerea uleiului ars ii cauza prioritara ce modifica cantitatea accesibila noului ulei. Trebuie sa "inghita" acel 3.75 cu filtru inclus (si plin) dupa cum spune la carte.

[Viktor]

Mi-am tot fortat ramasita de materie cenusie si nu pricep neam cum de flush-ul iti buli motoru', Koss. Tind a crede ca, cauza ce a dus la segmentarea motorului ii cu totul alta si nu datorita flush-ului. Din punctul meu de vedere motoru' fu deja beteag iar flush-ul a indepartat impuritatile (jegu') demascind "tumoarea" ori, efectuarea schimbului de ulei cu flush inclus nu fu tocmai ca la carte.

In paranteza, e recomandat a se alerga un ~ 2l de ulei curat prin motor pentru a diminua ramasita de flush si doar dupa isi intra in drepturi schimbul de ulei cu filtru (nou) inclus. Cel putin eu astfel stiu.

[koss_x_treeme]

MI-a distrus motorul flushu. Dupa flush si schimb papa suta de grame de ulei la 100 km )). Solutia segmentare.. Acum nu mai stiu ce draq de flush am bagat dar oricum nu recomand Sa ma fi vazut la semafor cand acceleram scotea fum ca locomotiva diesel... poluam tot.. Ziceai ca e masina lu' batman si apasam pe buton sa faca fum in spate sa nu mai vada aia nimic. ). Cand vad flushuri expuse prin magazine ma apuca boala.

 

Asta am patit-o prin 2013-2014..

Edited November 4, 2017 by koss_x_treeme

[cris06]

Poate ai mers cu zeama aia in motor amestecata cu ulei diluind-ul. Desi, varianta asta ar fi dus la distrugerea cuzinetilor si a axei cu came! Eu merg pe varianta lui Viktor. Daca ai segmentat motorul atunci, inseamna ca treaba nu a fost facuta corect, ori segmentii au fost de 2 lei. Simeringurile supapelor au fost schimbate atunci?

[koss_x_treeme]

Pai mi-am schimbat si cuzinetii, si axul cu came si simeringurile dupa incident. )) Simeringurile cu siguranta mi le-a distrus flushu vietii... Inainte de flush mergea totul bine.. La cateva zile dupa flush a inceput sa scoata fum ca locomotiva. Motorul l-am lasat 30 de minute cu flushu in el. Timp destul pentru distrugere. Nu recomand prostii de flushuri. Nici aditivi minune sau alte bazaconii

Edited November 5, 2017 by koss_x_treeme

[Viktor]

Treaba e nenea Koss, ca multe alte motoare isi ia cu flush printre care si a lu' mandea din cind in cind, rar ce-i drept si nu pentru ca ar face minuni, ar curata de mama focului, ci pentru a diminua/dilua si lua jos cit mai bine ramasitele de ulei ars. Vezi exemplu' eprubetei (chiar daca-i facut la rece) ii una si aceiasi poveste . De matale ai ajuns la concluzia ca flush'u iti buli motoru' ... ii foarte ok (parerile sint impartite, fireste) insa personal ramin la cele doua eventuale cauze posibile mai sus amintite.

[cris06]

Pai mi-am schimbat si cuzinetii, si axul cu came si simeringurile dupa incident. )) Simeringurile cu siguranta mi le-a distrus flushu vietii... Inainte de flush mergea totul bine.. La cateva zile dupa flush a inceput sa scoata fum ca locomotiva. Motorul l-am lasat 30 de minute cu flushu in el. Timp destul pentru distrugere. Nu recomand prostii de flushuri. Nici aditivi minune sau alte bazaconii

 

Deci, chiar tu ai recunoscut ca ai utilizat un produs fara a respecta indicatiile de pe eticheta, in speta o jumatate de ora! Un produs de genul "flush" se tine in motorul mergand la relanti maxim 5 minute! Deci, nu poti acuza producatorii de astfel de substante ca-ti distrug motorul.

Suntem offtopic!

[Viktor]

N-o mai ardeti nici voi pe off ... ( :mrgreen Continuati in topicu' dedicat va rog ...

[koss_x_treeme]

Raman la parerea mea. Flushu mi-a stricat motorul. Sa nu le mai vad Niste porcarii de substante. Partea buna.. cand s-a dezmembrat motorul era totul luna, doar urme infime de mazga )))..

Edited November 6, 2017 by koss_x_treeme

[florinellll]

Mi-am facut schimbul de ulei acu 2 saptamani. Au intrat 3 litri la a mea koreanca din dotare ).. Ma uit pe nivel la joja .. e aproape de maxim )... Sunt curios cum naiba au ramas aia 0.75 litri prin motor. ca in carte scrie ca 3.75l intra. )) I-am si zis la nenea care a schimbat uleiul sa puna mai putin.. A pus mai putin cu un litru.. Din 4l mai am 1l in recipient. La service la skoda, premium. au pus aia in trecut peste de cand m-am uitat pe joja era muuult peste maxim.. Mai bine mai putin decat mai mult.. mi-au distrus garniturile doreii aia atunci. Acum am pus castrol magnetec 10w40 full sintetic si filtru mann.

 

Totusi tin bine de tot minte ca in urma cu mai multi ani am facut spalare la motor cu flushu mamii (SA NU FACETI SPALARE LA MOTOR CU FLUSHURI ! Eu m-am apucat de segmentat motorul dupa treaba asta ) ). Am pus la maxim pe joja ulei dupa ce l-am scurs pe tot pana la ultima picatura. Au intrat 3.4l ulei pana la maxim pe joja. Ori astea de korea au alte specificatii ori 3,75 e umflat putin..

Uleiurile aste se pun in motoare de ultima generatie

Trotinetele noastre au nevoie de ulei ieftin si schimb la 6000---8000

Motoarele termice uzate sau defecte nu se repara cu ulei scump sau alte smacuri

[koss_x_treeme]

Sunteti nebuni. Dau faliment daca schimb uleiul la 6000 km.. Asa am citit ca scrie in cartea tehnica dar.. eu il schimb pe la 15,000- 16000 sau o data pe an. Oricum am observat ca s-au cam prostit uleiurile. Ca s-au prostit, ca nu s-au prostit tot o data pe an il schimb. Daca se duce motorul, schimb motorul cu totul cat dau pe schimburi suplimentare

AM tinut eu uleiul in motor 10.000 de km dupa segmentare... asa ca . N-are nici pe dracu. inca au trecut 3 ani de la segmentare si merge brici

Oricum motoarele de la daewoo au fost motoare de opel derivate din motoare GM heavy duty miniaturizate )). Peste 22 de ani masinile actuale care ies acum pe banda or sa ajunga 80% la fiare vechi.

Edited November 6, 2017 by koss_x_treeme

[Viktor]

Sunteti nebuni. Dau faliment daca schimb uleiul la 6000 km.. Asa am citit ca scrie in cartea tehnica dar.. eu il schimb pe la 15,000- 16000 sau o data pe an. Oricum am observat ca s-au cam prostit uleiurile. Ca s-au prostit, ca nu s-au prostit tot o data pe an il schimb. Daca se duce motorul, schimb motorul cu totul cat dau pe schimburi suplimentare

AM tinut eu uleiul in motor 10.000 de km dupa segmentare... asa ca . N-are nici pe dracu. inca au trecut 3 ani de la segmentare si merge brici

Oricum motoarele de la daewoo au fost motoare de opel derivate din motoare GM heavy duty miniaturizate )). Peste 22 de ani masinile actuale care ies acum pe banda or sa ajunga 80% la fiare vechi.

 

Daca alergam dupa etichete pompoase ce nu justifica pretu' ...

 

De ce as tine in motor un ulei gen Castrol 15.000 cind pot merge lejer pe un Mobil (ori alt soi de ulei) ieftin si bun in aceiasi bani cu schimb la 8.000 spre ex ...

 

Una bucata Castrol egal doua bucati Mobil. Acelasi cost il cuprinde ai 15.000 insa cheia succesului ii improspatarea la juma' cu un ulei proaspat, curat .

[koss_x_treeme]

Pur si simplu nu merita sa schimb uleiul la 8000 de km spre exemplu fiindca eu tot timpul completez ulei si antigel.. 1 litru de ulei la 2000 km pierderi + 1l de antigel cam la 1500 km pierdut... As da faliment daca as schimba uleiul cum scrie in carte la 6000 km. Bine, vorba vine as da faliment dar din punctul meu practic de vedere nu se justifica sa mai schimb uleiul chiar si la 8000 km... asa ca la 14000-15000 sau la 12 luni.

Daca stau sa fac un calcul intre schimburi.. bag vreo 3-4 litri de ulei cel putin completari iar antigel tot cam atat sau mai mult.. asa ca..

Motorul nu consuma ulei sau antigel. Il pierd pe la furtune, garnituri, simeringuri. Le-am mai schimbat, am schimbat radiatoare sparte, furtune, pus coliere dar pur si simplu la o masina de 22 ani sunt tot timpul pierderi. E ceva normal lucrul asta. Am invatat sa traiesc cu ele.

 

Din acest punct de vedere personal zic ca nu renteaza schimbul inutil al uleiului.

Edited November 8, 2017 by koss_x_treeme

[Viktor]

La asa pierderi ceva mai greu isi intra in drepturi schimbul de ulei. Am privit situatia ca fiind cu un minim consum de ulei intre schimburi (ce e firesc a isi face prezenta) motiv caruia am pus in balanta cele doua variante referitor la perioada si costuri totodata pe care eu unu as iesi in cistig de cauza.

[koss_x_treeme]

Ehh.. am exagerat cu 3-4 litri ca doar nu o fi tractor ucb.. dar 1-2 tot consuma la 12-13000 km.. . Am un vecin cu opel astra H motor 1.2 16v care tot se plange de consumul de ulei de 500 de grame la mia de km .. Eu stiu macar ca imi curge pe la garnituri majoritatea. Am schimbat kitul de ambreiaj si am uitat sa schimb simeringul ala de 2 lei de acolo.. imi picura ulei pe acolo.. Acum sa dau ambreiajul jos pentru un simering.. mi-e cam naspa.

[cris06]

Eu zic ca se continua discutia in total offtopic! Exista topic separat: Consum de ulei.

[paneuroil]

teste la zi de frictiune la ulei

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J4yGGQQnIX7gZIfT3ga2qJatRfdmFgmaNPLqpmrxQnE/edit#gid=0

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fbb9qtL-yWlzDPLzvxzpF01gRRtH8fKxeVtXt6HPpgg/edit#gid=0